spacesailor Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 Yes ! . " From Westland Lysander P.12 Light Support Aircraft " Sorry I won,t join pinter for a better look . spacesailor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 I think there's one where the rear looks like it's from a Wellington bomber. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacesailor Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 (edited) That's a P.12 Lysander . . Just google it, and you see a very Ugly plane. spacesailor Edited December 30, 2022 by spacesailor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Koreelah Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 ...with a rear gun turret like a Lancaster? I saw it recently on some forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red750 Posted December 30, 2022 Author Share Posted December 30, 2022 Yes, you are both right. That's the one I was thinking of. Truly odd looking. Also called the Wendover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red750 Posted December 30, 2022 Author Share Posted December 30, 2022 Here's more. The P.12, also sometimes referred to as the Wendover, was a modified version of the prototype Lysander K6127 with a Delanne configuration rear wing to carry a 4-gun turret power-operated tail gun turret. The design was intended for "beach strafing" in case of invasion of the UK. The rear fuselage was replaced by a wider one of constant cross section. Mounted low on it was a much larger tail surface, making it a Delanne-type tandem wing. Twin tail fins replaced the central fin, making room for the gun turret which was fitted just aft of the rear wing. Both Frazer Nash and Boulton-Paul turrets were considered but only a dummy with no power system was installed. The main wing and forward fuselage remained unchanged. Although it flew well, trials were still underway when the threat of invasion disappeared and it did not proceeded past flight trials, which were carried out with the dummy turret. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetrack Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 On the Ring Wing Thing, you just have to ask, "Why?". Just to try and eliminate wingtip vortexes? To my untrained eye, it flies like a house brick. The parasitic drag of that ring wing must be huge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red750 Posted December 31, 2022 Author Share Posted December 31, 2022 Blackburn H.S.T.10 The Blackburn H.S.T.10 (sometimes known as the Blackburn B-9) was a 1930s British twin-engined commercial monoplane, designed and built by Blackburn Aircraft at Brough, East Yorkshire. Intended to be "high speed" by careful attention to shape and removing "protuberances" with retractable undercarriage, the expected performance was 320 miles with two pilots and twelve passengers which increased to 1000 miles with both pilots and five passengers. The prototype used test serial B-9. In 1937, the project was abandoned, and B-9 was given to Loughborough College as an instructional airframe. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Have you got a listing for Republic Seabee? Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red750 Posted January 1 Author Share Posted January 1 1 hour ago, facthunter said: Have you got a listing for Republic Seabee? Nev Thanks for the prompt, Nev. It fell through the cracks somehow. With over 1,000 produced, I have done a full profile in GA Single Engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 I did at one time know 2 people with good condition flying examples.. BBL was one. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red750 Posted January 1 Author Share Posted January 1 Republic XF-12 Rainbow The Republic XF-12 Rainbow was an American four-engine, all-metal prototype reconnaissance aircraft designed by the Republic Aviation Company in the late 1940s. Like most large aircraft of the era, it used radial engines, specifically the Pratt & Whitney R-4360 Wasp Major. The XF-12 was referred to as "flying on all fours" meaning: four engines, 400 mph (640 km/h) cruise, 4,000 mi (6,400 km) range, at 40,000 ft (12,000 m). The aircraft was designed to maximize aerodynamic efficiency. Although innovative, the jet engine and the end of World War 2 made it obsolete, and it did not enter production. A proposed airliner variant, the RC-2, was deemed uneconomical and cancelled before being built.Only two examples built. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red750 Posted January 3 Author Share Posted January 3 B-17G Flying Fortress used as testbed for a turboprop engine. The turboprop under test was sufficient to keep the bomber aloft with all other engines stopped. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red750 Posted January 3 Author Share Posted January 3 The gun from an A-10 Warthog compared to a VW. BRRRRRRT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red750 Posted January 4 Author Share Posted January 4 Northrop XP-56 Black Bullet The Northrop XP-56 Black Bullet was a unique prototype fighter interceptor built by the Northrop Corporation. It was one of the most radical of the experimental aircraft built during World War II. Ultimately, it was unsuccessful and did not enter production. Only 2 built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny_galaga Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 On 16/12/2022 at 11:11 AM, Old Koreelah said: We easily overlook the need for training aircraft, which is what this one morphed into. During WWII American navy pilots needed a realistic aircraft carrier to train on. Instead of diverting precious warships for the purpose, a couple of old coal-driven paddle wheel passenger ships were quickly converted: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Sable_(IX-81) We need a 😲 in the 'like' menu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_d Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 3 hours ago, red750 said: Northrop XP-56 Black Bullet The Northrop XP-56 Black Bullet was a unique prototype fighter interceptor built by the Northrop Corporation. It was one of the most radical of the experimental aircraft built during World War II. Ultimately, it was unsuccessful and did not enter production. Only 2 built. Well no wonder it was unsuccessful - they forgot the rear fuselage and horizontal stabilizer, pointed the engines the wrong way and mounted the tail upside down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Unless it looks right , it ain't right. It should slightly resemble a bird. Birds fly well. Slats and flaps etc. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetrack Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Gee, just 9 months to convert that old paddle steamer into a replica aircraft carrier, is a staggering feat - even more so, when it was done at a time when such huge numbers of American men were already fighting in war zones! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Maybe the Chinese did it. They built a lot of the railway. Nev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red750 Posted January 11 Author Share Posted January 11 Sud-Est 2410 Grognard The SNCASE Grognard was designed as a single-seat, low-level ground-attack aircraft. Although in development in the 1950s for the French Armée de l'Air, the program was cancelled in favor of the Sud-Ouest Vautour II. 2 built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Koreelah Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Only the French could build such an ugly aircraft, but they were not the first to put the air intake ready to gobble up the pilot if the ejector seat failed. On the other hand, intake of foreign objects off the ground would be eliminated. Some Soviet designs prevent this by having a special intake above the wing for takeoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 It certainly wouldn't do high subsonic speeds well. We found out a lot of things post that era. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red750 Posted January 12 Author Share Posted January 12 Here is one that is easy to mistake because it looks so similar to another aircraft. It is the Convair Charger, which lost out to the very similar OV-10 Bravo. The difference in appearance are the cockpit, and the tail. Only one prototype was built. Convair Charger. North American Rockwell OV-10 Bravo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 On 12/1/2023 at 11:56 AM, red750 said: Here is one that is easy to mistake because it looks so similar to another aircraft. It is the Convair Charger, which lost out to the very similar OV-10 Bravo. The difference in appearance are the cockpit, and the tail. Only one prototype was built. Convair Charger. North American Rockwell OV-10 Bravo I think you mean the OV-10 Bronco not Bravo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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