shags_j Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 VLTOL... Gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exadios Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 These do not qualify as LSA because of the stall speed and they would be a hopeless tug as they have to fly too fast just to keep in the air and would be towing a glider beyond its max rough air speed IMO I'm not sure what your definition of LSA is. Is it the same as Ultralight? The ones here have the same registration as other LSA aircraft. I think the tug comments may have been may have been made "tongue in cheek". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exadios Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 What drugs are you on? They are ugly as sin. They just look wrong... Also I'm not really sure of their stats but last time I watched one take off at archerfield it seemed to take almost the entire runway before it lifted off. But I guess it takes all sorts ;) I guess you would have to define what "right" looks like. Certainly they look sleek - and fast. I'm not sure what the length of the take off roll has to do with the original question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shags_j Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 Ex: I think by LSA he meant RAAus Rego'd re: second post. Absolutely nothing to do with previous post. Just an observation re takeoff roll. I just think they are a funny looking aircraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exadios Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 These two Varezes are registered with 19 prefixes which, as I understand it, means that they are homebuilt LSAs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdriussi Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 I think the Morgan aeroworks sierra needs a mention here. They are an awesome design, fast, and also get some great reviews on this forum and others. And Aus made too! Support the locals :) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howard Hughes Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 Came across the Shark in my searching...:thumb_up: Also a great research tool, so far only found one link that is broken! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfGnome Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 The shark looks, well like a shark (fuselage). Very nice but being tandem seating it would never get past the expenditure review committee at my place. Just tell her that she'll be riding pillion! (Either that, or tell her it's for all those times when she wanted to see the back of you... ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howard Hughes Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 On second thoughts, you tell her . . . It's easy to be brave from a keyboard far away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sharp End Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 The shark looks, well like a shark (fuselage). Very nice but being tandem seating it would never get past the expenditure review committee at my place. Stick her in the front! Sitting up front in a tandem is actually really enjoyable from a passenger point of view as you can see out better. Holding hands is more difficult, however you could always give the ERC a neck massage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exadios Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 19 Registered but I would think that having retractable gear and a stall above 45 KIAS they couldn't fit into LSA but could be registered under the 540kg MTOW.I think they look like something from the 21st rather than 20th Century. Not pretty but exciting and definitely not just another light aircraft. Only the front wheel is retractable. The stall speed (such as it is) is less than 42 knots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 If you have a closer look it's got dual controls. :thumb_up: mmm Melb -> Windorah in a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howard Hughes Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 I think this could have been a contender, but sadly it doesn't seem to be going ahead and not strictly LSA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza 38 Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 Thats a quick looking A/C Howard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippydiesel Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Objective results are the only valid measurement - check out the Pipistral Virus SW & VH SGS / Sonerai built by Robin Austin. Powered by 912 (100 hp )engines. Both these aircraft are world competition winners, so their performance has been independently verified, unlike the wishful claims of most aircraft manufactures in this class of aircraft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGL Fox Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 I think the Carbon Sting would be the fastest LSA registered RA-Aus aircraft...I flew in one when I was looking for something to buy and it was a genuinely fast plane, 2 up and we were cruising at 130knts, it had 100hp Rotax and variable speed prop that wasn't really working...very fast... I have attached a photo of the ASI that day... David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yenn Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 19 Rego has nothing to do with LSA. My Corby is homebuilt 19 Rego and is not LSA. From memory the definition of LSA includes that it was either factory built or maybe homebuilt but to very strict guidelines. I don't know what the performance figures have to be but it is all available on the web for those who need to know. Just make sure you are talking about what you are defining. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happyflyer Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 I think the Carbon Sting would be the fastest LSA registered RA-Aus aircraft...I flew in one when I was looking for something to buy and it was a genuinely fast plane, 2 up and we were cruising at 130knts, it had 100hp Rotax and variable speed prop that wasn't really working...very fast... I have attached a photo of the ASI that day...David [ATTACH=full]42697[/ATTACH] A bit more right rudder and it might have gone even faster! 2 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Wrong rudder is never good. Nev 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank marriott Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 I think the Carbon Sting would be the fastest LSA registered RA-Aus aircraft...I flew in one when I was looking for something to buy and it was a genuinely fast plane, 2 up and we were cruising at 130knts, it had 100hp Rotax and variable speed prop that wasn't really working...very fast... I have attached a photo of the ASI that day...David [ATTACH=full]42697[/ATTACH] Interesting for 2 reasons: 1. The AH indicates a decent although the VSI hasen't caught up? 2. "Cruise speed" which is 10kts into the yellow (i.e. Smooth air) I have no arguement with it being fast, obviously is, but "crusing IAS speed" 10kts in the yellow - I have reservations. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSCBD Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 2015 174.406 kts - Risen world speed record challange in the sunny morning of 16th December 2015, at the Aviosuperficie di Ozzano Dell'Emilia "Guglielmo Zamboni” Bolagna, Swiss Excellence Airplanes Risen has won a new challenge: striking the UL class world speed record with a standard Rotax 912 ULS 100 hp engine. Is it a unique fact that the pilot is also the engineer that designed the machine, so the satisfaction for SEA was double. Pilot Alberto Porto, with Sara della Moretta on board has made a 323,31 Km/h Speed over a straight course, establishing a new AECI certified national record that was claimed and now is under review at FAI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 AH indicates nose down or that it hasn't been adjusted for new speed. Pitch attitude. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippydiesel Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 ASI's are notoriously inaccurate - independent third party verification, taking into account the many variables that can effect the result, is the only credible claim/measure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaz3g Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 AH indicates nose down or that it hasn't been adjusted for new speed. Pitch attitude. Nev Perhaps parallax error Nev? The VSI says nothing happening. Kaz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 A bit of that Kaz but at higher speeds a lot of planes have to be nose down, (and trimmed well forward) Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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