motzartmerv Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Just never, ever, ever make a call in the third person (such as saying Drifter XXXX "turns" base instead of "turning" base).It's not against the regulations but it should be! Turns, joins, rolls, departs, .......ANNOYS!!!!!!!!!! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahlocks Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Hmmm.... I mights haves to goes and dos somes circuitses at Jaspererssss. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howard Hughes Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Just never, ever, ever make a call in the third person (such as saying Drifter XXXX "turns" base instead of "turning" base).It's not against the regulations but it should be! And don't preface it with 'the' Drifter XXXX... Unless you work for BA!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayavner Posted October 10, 2012 Author Share Posted October 10, 2012 Hrmm... those things would never have occurred to me. Is this a common problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettR44 Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Example: Rottnest Island traffic, Helicopter Romeo Tango Quebec, Robinson R44, currently one zero miles east of Rottnest, one thousand five hundred in-bound to join right downwind runway zero nine. Estimate circuit time three zero (meaning actual time to join the circuit e.g. 1330hrs) Traffic Rottnest. From there I make a 5 mile call then 3 mile call before making my downwind call, base call then final. Even if no-one is there, is excellent airmanship and keep in the back of your mind that someone is always listening! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapphire Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 The possibly ambiguious thing about these calls for me is the who you are bit. Over the last years I identified myself as "Sapphire" or "Varieze". Not everybody knows what those two a/c look like. The term "helecopter, ultralight, sports a/c, light twin etc" would be better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motzartmerv Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 That sounds good Brett. Probably don't need that many call though. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DonC Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Hmmm.... I mights haves to goes and dos somes circuitses at Jaspererssss. And please, there is only ONE final - NOT finals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 IF you are on the limit of your range and making an initial contact, I can't see anything wrong with something like. " XYZ this is ABC , do you read?". Otherwise say the minimum and be clear and don't rush it . Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guernsey Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 And please, there is only ONE final - NOT finals Depends on how many times you bounce. Oh no he's at it again. Alan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Good point G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgmwa Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Example:...currently one zero miles east .... one thousand five hundred in-bound to join right downwind runway zero nine.... Wow, your eyesight is a lot better than mine if you can see the Rotto windsock from 10 miles out! rgmwa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultralights Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 dont need to see the windsock if there are already aircraft in the circuit, or you listen into the AWIS.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettR44 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 That sounds good Brett. Probably don't need that many call though. ;) It's always a good thing to do at an airfield like Rottnest, we get everything from RAAus aircraft, GA aircraft and Military aircraft using the airfield and the NDB to do approaches. Situational awareness at a location like that is paramount. Nothing like mixing it up with a few jets, P-3's and rescue choppers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaz3g Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Turns, joins, rolls, departs, .......ANNOYS!!!!!!!!!! And so do long-winded calls when the circuit is busy. "Lilydale XYZ base 18" is enough to tell the world that you are commencing the next leg when others are trying to call 10 miles or final. Kaz 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettR44 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Wow, your eyesight is a lot better than mine if you can see the Rotto windsock from 10 miles out! rgmwa I already know the wind direction by the time I'm overhead Fremantle, either by other aircraft in the CTAF or the wind sock at Azure Helicopters on Rous Head. Plus if you look at all the merchant ships at anchor then that will also give you a pretty good idea of wind direction. Failing all of that, you've always got that wind turbine on the island, it sticks out like a sore thumb! This was yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
av8vfr Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 I already know the wind direction by the time I'm overhead Fremantle, either by other aircraft in the CTAF or the wind sock at Azure Helicopters on Rous Head. Plus if you look at all the merchant ships at anchor then that will also give you a pretty good idea of wind direction. Failing all of that, you've always got that wind turbine on the island, it sticks out like a sore thumb!This was yesterday looks like a typical (inverted) circuit to me..lol You must have inflatable rotors for the sea landing... remember inverted fuel tanks have a time limit lol.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgmwa Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 I already know the wind direction by the time I'm overhead Fremantle, either by other aircraft in the CTAF or the wind sock at Azure Helicopters on Rous Head. Plus if you look at all the merchant ships at anchor then that will also give you a pretty good idea of wind direction. Failing all of that, you've always got that wind turbine on the island, it sticks out like a sore thumb! Yeah, yeah, but apart from all that, ya still can't see the bloody Rotto wind sock, can ya? rgmwa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 We had a Boeing 717 join crosswind 10, join downwind 10, join base 10 and join finals 10. I was pretty impressed by him joining the the same circuit 4 times!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guernsey Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Nothing wrong with that photo of 'Flying Boats'. Alan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaz3g Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 We had a Boeing 717 join crosswind 10, join downwind 10, join base 10 and join finals 10. I was pretty impressed by him joining the the same circuit 4 times!!! I guess you can get lost when you fly a big circuit? Kaz 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettR44 Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Yeah, yeah, but apart from all that, ya still can't see the bloody Rotto wind sock, can ya? rgmwa Easy for me, I can slow down to under 30kts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperplace Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 social chit-chat must be avoided. It actually happens: the other day I heard some "hi Bob, how are you Bob?" on a CTAF. Drives you mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaz3g Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Easy for me, I can slow down to under 30kts So can I... Kaz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M61A1 Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 I already know the wind direction by the time I'm overhead Fremantle, either by other aircraft in the CTAF or the wind sock at Azure Helicopters on Rous Head. Plus if you look at all the merchant ships at anchor then that will also give you a pretty good idea of wind direction. Failing all of that, you've always got that wind turbine on the island, it sticks out like a sore thumb!This was yesterday This photo made me think about a poster on the flightline wall amongst all the others. "If you fly a single engine helicopter over water for for a length of time, sooner or later you are going to get wet". I think it was related to HUETs training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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