jetjr Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Good advice Pilots doing bird scaring work would always have low level endorsements,plenty of experience and often Ag rating or working towards one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Good advicePilots doing bird scaring work would always have low level endorsements,plenty of experience and often Ag rating or working towards one. Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetjr Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Unless the farm owns the aircraft - none I know of do - it would be illegal otherwise Its usually a paid service (commercial) and keeps junior ag pilots busy The ones I know of at least 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farri Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Pilots doing bird scaring work would always have low level endorsements,plenty of experience and often Ag rating or working towards one. However! Unfortunately,it`s the one they don`t see or forget that was there, that get`s them! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downunder Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Yamaha RMAX | The high performance unmanned helicopter designed for a wide range of industrial uses Two birds with one stone, if you'll pardon the pun. Keep the birds away and spray your crop...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDQDI Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Yamaha RMAX | The high performance unmanned helicopter designed for a wide range of industrial usesTwo birds with one stone, if you'll pardon the pun. Keep the birds away and spray your crop...... Some of the prices I got on that a year or two ago make the warrior seem cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDQDI Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 It would be interesting to see an up to date price but when I looked it was well over 100k to buy. Drone tech to do the job is out there but the expense to set it up is prohibitive, much easier to pay a local aggie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetjr Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Spraying from drones especially helicopters very limited and expensive. Only feasible where aircraft cant do it. Not much aerial application in horticulture anyway. except maybe Bananas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnewbery Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Cotton, anywhere that needs top dressing like Lucerne fields etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetjr Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 AT 802 and others way more efficient, rotary and drone simply don't have capacity or speed. Cost per ha would be huge and way too slow. Helicopters used where powerlines or topography prevent aircraft or ground application Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Tuncks Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 I reckon you would be right about an electric drone not being effective. But I have heard about big engine model planes being used. One of these using drone guidance might be ok. Real planes and people are too expensive and risky, surely the same money spent on a couple of guys with shotguns and quad bikes would be just as good and a lot safer. In the meantime, the farmers have my sympathy. I wish the bureaucrats and lawyers would sometimes get told that there was no money for them this year on account of how the birds had eaten everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Just as a matter of interest, how do the crows shell the almonds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetjr Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 When almonds young they are green peach like fruit and they can tear it open. Not always eating the nut itself. Most damage Ive seen is from various parrots - all protected natives of course - and they easily crack shell open. Almonds not that tough They use plenty of quads and shotguns but try writing a SWMS for this activity. Let alone problems they face if a bird actually gets shot. Some of these orchards are thousands of hectares and lots of these around. Couple of points to disagree with you Bruce, young Ag pilots looking for hours are quite cheap and Id reckon a larger drone inc operator way more cost per hr than a old Warrior. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litespeed Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 That's ok. I fly a raven - easy to tell apart . Ravens are a far better class of pilot than any silly crow. And beautiful when up close. The easy tell from afar is the beard on the neck. Sorry - I will take my Raven fetish elsewhere. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWF Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Ravens are a far better class of pilot than any silly crow. And beautiful when up close. The easy tell from afar is the beard on the neck.Sorry - I will take my Raven fetish elsewhere. I think he is just raven on...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Ravens are a far better class of pilot than any silly crow. And beautiful when up close. The easy tell from afar is the beard on the neck.Sorry - I will take my Raven fetish elsewhere. oh dear .... call the medic, I think he's off his meds again ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litespeed Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Dr Kasper, please we talked about this. I agreed not to wear the suit in public.......remember that. And you agreed what I do in the cockpit is never mentioned. And we both agreed medication levels are not exact. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Burdon Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 They have been using this method for at least 20 years now with very few incidents. Power line caught the undercarriage and looks like he made an aircraft carrier style landing only taking out a couple of very young trees, Would have probably been a different outcome if it had been into the older orchard. But this method is far safer and more effective than quads and shotguns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litespeed Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 I reckon they should try a nice gps controlled pulse jet. That should scare the buggers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Burdon Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Try get approval Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernie Knight Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Difficult farming - droughts, floods and even when through all that - birds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickshaw8 Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 The ABC is reporting a light plane crash at Loxton, SA. The pilot walked away with minor injuries. Looks more like an Arrow which has done a wheels up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Burdon Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 Difficult farming - droughts, floods and even when through all that - birds. Not to mention a possible mouse plague 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabiru Phil Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 Four corners. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bull Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 What about large petrol powered rc models ? would that scare them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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