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really sad news. sympathies to all families involved. hope the woman pulls through...

Well Done!!!! Definitely a great feeling!! :clap2:

guys...i am aware that angle of attack is increased to maintain lift in a turn...if you read my last post, i did actually state that...and also said that the whole point was that its the pilots job to keep it level in a level turn....hence the pilot's job is to increase the A of A to do that.....the post was about rudder and aileron being used co-ordinated....thats the point that is trying to be conveyed......rudder and aileron used together.....not one followed by the other...

correct cfi......the nose does pitch in a turn...the whole point is that its the pilots job to stop it from pitching out of the level attitude!! and also hence using rudder and aileron together stopping the yaw in opposite direction..;)

ok...my take on it all.......you can clearly see from the primary and secondary effects that rudder and aileron go hand in hand...Spin has it spot on. Aileron and rudder should be used co-ordinated with each other....once the turn is initiated with both, the aircraft is established in the turn, and you'll find the controls (control column and rudder) will be in the neutral position. If you are conducting a 'level' turn, the nose of the aircraft shouldn't change pitch at all. The nose is in its level attitude, horizon in that sweet spot in the windscreen.....even in a turn, you keep it there.....you are only baking the wings, and balancing the turn...the horizon should just be tilted in the windscreen. all aircraft are different, yes, but rudder and aileron should still be co-ordinated.....use them together and they counter their own secondary's.

welcome and well done Solomon, and good onya Motz!

lets have a look at 1.1.7©(11)...track error...also....with reference to a planned or given track and given appropriate data: determine track made good, calculate drift, determine alteration of heading to: parallel track, intercept track maintain track once it is intercepted...revise eta.....establish DR...... pretty sure that covers what is more commonly known to pilots than not.... as the 1 in 60....

joe...the 1 in 60 is not an exact science...it is 'deduced reckoning' therefor as it has been said before, the numbers dont need to be 100% spot on to give you the information you need to alter you course. it is actually quite practical in flight and also necessary to stop you from ending up however many miles away from your destination, without getting you into a 'lost' situation with another possibility of running out of fuel to 'find your position'. cfi...i believe that in the ra aus syllabus for pilot navigation it says that in the map reading you need to be able to 'select appropriate position lines to establish track error'...correct me if im wrong, but i take that to cover DR.... liz

wow....really sad news. Hopefully there weren't any more in the helicopter. condolences to the families involved.

i got these a while ago also.....they do seem to have an interest to them regardless of how much you know.... well worth the look.

:( i flew heaps over the water on the weekend and saw no whales...although apparently there were HEAPS!!! (probably would help if i opened my eyes... ) awesome shots rob, makes me wanna do it again!

BUGGER!!!! :big_grin:

joe..its not really a case of doing trigonometry in the air, its a simple multiplication. ive never been the best at maths, but the 1 in 60, is pure simplicity in the calculations......Paul....if you're still having dramas with the 1 in 60....a quick look at a thread from not long ago will surely help.... http://www.recreationalflying.com/threads/6-minute-markers-and-the-1-in-60-rule-explained.20586/ liz

very sad news. as said before thoughts and prayers to the families involved!

hahahaha...that...and you can never make another greaser while they are watching!!!

darks.....if you, as a pilot, believed that someone was being unsafe in any way, then you are quite right to report him/her. there are many factors that can turn sour from something as simple as a 'legible and informative' radio call. you have stated that you werent in the position to liaise with the pilot concerned and therefor have taken at least some step in ensuring that even a small or large, (whichever the case may be) impediment, does not lead in future to be a major incident/accident. take heart in the fact that you may have saved someones life, or the livese of many, by letting someone in charge know of the problem so that it can be investigated, to whatever point.... liz

great news swanny!! hope it continues to get better!

hey guys....the rego is FMI. but regardless, its good to hear that the guys were'nt harmed....wonder if they went to play the 19th????

The sequence for everything is Power Attitude Trim.....the only time it ever changes is at the top of the climb, where it becomes Attitude Power Trim....because we all know what happens if you pull the power with a high angle of attack!! ;) As for the use of the controls....when I was a student, I learnt in the gazelle. I know...an easy thing to fly and doesnt take much to do it. But when it came to trimming the thing, I never liked to use it. I always thought that I was in this game to fly an aeroplane, Im gunna fly it, not let some lever do the work. And I flew most of the time, slightly trimmed, but always had my hands on the controls, with pressure. Then came time for the Jab and my instructor rating..... boy oh boy did I learn that that trim was the best thing since sliced bread!! I have seen the best example of why you should use that trim. Surprisingly I have had a few students with the same initial mindset as me, in regard to trimming...its either not worth it for such small pressure, or, it's just so busy (like circuit intro's etc) that they just plain forget. Needless to say that when the benefits are pointed out to them for trimming....that is..that they can have a look around at whats going on and not 'chase' the attitude all the time...they find it far easier to take it all in. TRIM TRIM TRIM

hey sloper, i cant give you an educated opinion on what is better to use, but what i would assume.....you have two places to look at, at all times...out the window at whatever distance, and also close up in the cockpit at t's & p's, instruments, and maps etc....so u need to have the focus for both areas. id probably suggest sticking with the bifocals. saves u changing glasses all the time. is your peripheral blurry through the bifocals??? May be a drama as that might just be where an aircraft or a bird or two are hiding. i know some guys who change their glasses over for reading checklists, etc inside, then use different for the flying side. seems like a lot of drama if u already have the easier option for a fix. Liz.

David, just to clear things up, I wasn't at all insinuating that you were bragging about the flight, but pointing out that your story was able to 'put me in the plane as the PIC' so to speak, and therefore showing everyone that its not the way to go......i believe there will be many lives saved by your story!

WOW David. A remarkable recollection and i'm sure i speak for all when i say we are glad you decided to share it. One can only imagine the thoughts and adrenalin racing through you mind and body while all this was happening. You were very fortunate to find a hole that popped you out underneath the soup, on a heading that took you right where you had intended to go. Unless you're instrument rated, the ability to trust those instruments and not what your body is telling you, i'm sure would be a particularly trying event...(having not been in the situation, i cant say for sure...) But by all accounts it shows just how important it is to stick ever so carefully into a part of the brain that we can come back to later to retrieve, those little tidbits of absolutely important information we get taught, but seem to rarely use. Sometimes that fight or flight syndrome doesnt always lead to be a helping hand, but, glad that it helped you out by keeping you on your toes throughout this particular flight. Liz.

Great news Phil!!!!! The first solo is the greatest milestone in the most amazing adventure of flight! Well done! Liz :clap2:

awesome stuff Win!!!! was great hearing about ur training right from the start! congrats for getting your license!!!

i heard about it on the radio this morning. what a tragedy. heartfelt condolences out to all the families involved, and hopeing that the other two survive.