pmccarthy Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 How would we react if RAA said they were increasing annual membership by $10 to add $100,000 to the kitty to keep the right people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Tuncks Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 I would react very negatively pm. More money can attract worse people. And in whose opinion will the "right people " be chosen? And how can the RAAus possibly offer the security that a government job can? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 increasing annual membership by $10 that happens every year regardless 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 How would we react if RAA said they were increasing annual membership by $10 to add $100,000 to the kitty to keep the right people? well $10/year for a membership and aircraft rego is average ... and its always heartening to note that since the brave new world of the two Michaels the salary and wages costs of RAAus have gone up by more than 26% so your point is rather more of an open and honest view of what has probably already been happening for the past 5 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Page Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 This is unbeloodybelievable.I've been dealing with Darren regarding my MARAP application after I submitted all flight testing paperwork 4 months ago. Last week he wasn't answering my phone calls or emails and when I finally got on to Jared, it seemed Darren was on annual leave and about to return to work. And once again was told my MARAP had been found and I should have an answer in a week. Sounds to me like there was no handover of work in progress. The implication was that staff of RAA didn't know he was leaving? In fact, staff told me he should already be back at work and they didn't understand why he hadn't undiverted his phone? I get the feeling that RAA is successfully taking the CASA method of (slowly) dealing with members. Not impressed at all. Just wonder did RAAus board leave the door open for him to come home after he did not like the real world? Anything is possible down there.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank marriott Posted August 22, 2018 Author Share Posted August 22, 2018 Just wonder did RAAus board leave the door open for him to come home after he did not like the real world?Anything is possible down there.. Only thing I know for shore is that it being kept secret from members whatever is happening! The new “improved” management. BS. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Page Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Only thing I know for shore is that it being kept secret from members whatever is happening! The new “improved” management. BS. I see Don Ramsay was bragging how good the communication is. We had to wait for social Edina to tell us *Freedon to Fly, fiasco. *Barnfield going to CASA then staying for a couple of smokes then leaving. Just wonder will RAAus take home back? What I suspicious of, were they keeping it a secret, so Barnfield could go and have a look at the CASA then return to the fold and no one would be wiser.?? KP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgwilson Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 It just goes to show that aviation politics, state and federal politics are all the same. Absolutely pathetic! Full of factions, infighting, bullying and points scoring only for the benefit of themselves. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotSoSuperSonic Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Only thing I know for shore is that it being kept secret from members whatever is happening! The new “improved” management. BS. Might be the RAAus managements redefined meaning of "Transparency". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yenn Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Just remember we may think we are members, but really we are the paying clientele. 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storchy neil Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 hold the bloody boat oh plane it was Darren that told me I was not to make waves so he don't like surfing he steps out stay out but there you go don't tell no one will find out if I don't like them waves I will come back neil 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank marriott Posted August 27, 2018 Author Share Posted August 27, 2018 So does anybody know what has or is going to happen. So far (secondhand information only) 1. The Tech Manager resigns 2. The assistant acting as Tech Manager (only ascertained by direct question to RAA - stating members will be informed - WHEN does come to mind - maybe next year?) 3. The ex-Tech Manager gets another job and resigns from that, no interest in his other career moves. Surely not reappointed as if nothing happened???? STILL NOTHING from RAA. What is the secret? Is this what constitutes open and accountable management? Serious failing here. Is the most important issue to management registering and then deregistering a slogan? Whatever reason they are avoiding openness for, certainly feeds rumours, conspiracy theories , and downright mistrust. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billwoodmason Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 So does anybody know what has or is going to happen.So far (secondhand information only) 1. The Tech Manager resigns 2. The assistant acting as Tech Manager (only ascertained by direct question to RAA - stating members will be informed - WHEN does come to mind - maybe next year?) 3. The ex-Tech Manager gets another job and resigns from that, no interest in his other career moves. Surely not reappointed as if nothing happened???? STILL NOTHING from RAA. What is the secret? Is this what constitutes open and accountable management? Serious failing here. Is the most important issue to management registering and then deregistering a slogan? Whatever reason they are avoiding openness for, certainly feeds rumours, conspiracy theories , and downright mistrust. Having a Ltd Liability Company structure plays right in the hands of this kind of behaviour. Even since before the constitutional changes, this kind of leadership was in evidence with M and M at the helm. Making statements about “all the membership want to do is fly” - pretty much signalled they were going to do what they like without recourse from the membership (and has proved correct). I think the fact that they stole another organisation’s “mantra”- signals to me that they want administer all recreational flying in the future. (This is not in RAA memberships best interest IMHO). The olive branch of saying that other organisations can still use the phrase “Freedom to fly” is just contemptuous after the fact (and by the way is contrary to RAA’s actions in the recent past given maintenance restrictions etc). All recreational organisations have reason not to trust RAA - given what has transpired since Airventure at Narromine 2017. More than once bush fires started by Lincke have had to be extinguished by others - (beginning with uninformed statements to the media about Jabiru following an incident in Queensland). The silence over Darren Barnfield leaving is just another example of keeping the membership in the dark as they work under the assumption that we don’t need to know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Keith CASA and the REAL world in the one sentence? It looks as if HE (Darren,) saw all and made an astute decision. Plenty of people would not like working for CASA.. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ev17ifly2 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Bill you're right "we don't need to know" just so long as that department continues to exist along with the solid technical support and representation we have come to expect the RAA needs to make no announcement 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billwoodmason Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Bill you're right "we don't need to know" just so long as that department continues to exist along with the solid technical support and representation we have come to expect the RAA needs to make no announcement Ev17 - you’ve misinterprated what I said. I believe it would be beneficial to members to know who key personnel are and their career movements. And as far as RAA representation is concerned the current representation (read Chairman and CEO) bear no resemblance to the kind of representation (read adocates) we had for the original ideals of AUF. They are hell bent on creating a monster. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slb Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 It also asks the question as to what is happening regarding the roll out of the practical courses for L1 which have already been announced by management, both at their meetings around Australia plus the email news. Also the seminars at our fly in at Cessnock. Are they going to be affected by the lack of tech support now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Your tech man/ person is about the most important function in the organization with the highest attrition rate historically. Nev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundsounds Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 It also asks the question as to what is happening regarding the roll out of the practical courses for L1 which have already been announced by management, both at their meetings around Australia plus the email news. Also the seminars at our fly in at Cessnock. Are they going to be affected by the lack of tech support now? Maybe ring and ask the questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storchy neil Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 sorry roundsounds I have said get it in writing from them or inform them that you are recording the conversation that it how the sheeeet hits the fan when you don't record conversations neil 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundsounds Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 sorry roundsounds I have said get it in writing from them or inform them that you are recording the conversation that it how the sheeeet hits the fan when you don't record conversations neil Yes, ask then follow up with email to confirm conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Page Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 It also asks the question as to what is happening regarding the roll out of the practical courses for L1 which have already been announced by management, both at their meetings around Australia plus the email news. Also the seminars at our fly in at Cessnock. Are they going to be affected by the lack of tech support now? At the Bundaberg when they held the AGM the practical section was to be rolled out in the next month or so.. actually the size of the so was not mentioned. KP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank marriott Posted August 31, 2018 Author Share Posted August 31, 2018 August email released from Linke and STILL no information re the Tech Manager position. This is beyond belief, what is it they are trying to conceal - pretend nothing happened maybe?? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billwoodmason Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 August email released from Linke and STILL no information re the Tech Manager position.This is beyond belief, what is it they are trying to conceal - pretend nothing happened maybe?? It makes you wonder what the circumstances of his departure were etc. Did he depart on good terms?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgwilson Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Well, maybe nothing has happened. The discussion all seems to be related to hearsay or "I was told" etc. He may well be on leave or something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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