onetrack Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 The ABC is reporting a light aircraft has crashed into a vineyard, near a dam, at Renmark North, in S.A.'s Riverland. The pilot has survived with serious injuries, and is currently being transferred to Berri Hospital, where a MedStar chopper is apparently going to transfer him to Adelaide. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-11-16/pilot-injured-in-light-plane-crash-in-south-australia/11711534 https://www.police.sa.gov.au/sa-police-news-assets/front-page-news/plane-crash-at-renmark-north#.Xc_QItIzaUk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 GA Aircraft, Cessna 441 Twin; big mess, amazing he got out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyBoy1960 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 It says on the news reports RA-Aus investigators are on their way to the scene ? Not for a GA aircraft ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 It says on the news reports RA-Aus investigators are on their way to the scene ? Not for a GA aircraft ? No, it is a GA aircraft, not an RA aircraft. Its a big twin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetrack Posted November 16, 2019 Author Share Posted November 16, 2019 News reports on anything aviation-related are notoriously incorrect, and more so on a Saturday afternoon/evening. "Adelaide Now" is reporting it as an Ultralight. Jesus wept. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetrack Posted November 16, 2019 Author Share Posted November 16, 2019 Turbo, are you sure with your information, as to the aircraft being a C441? Surely a C441 down, would be starting to appear everywhere in the news, by now? You're not getting mixed up with the Rossair crash? The SAPOL have not modified their information, they are stating an RA-Aus investigation. They're the people on the ground. I can find no C441 flights on any flight tracking history that have ended suddenly around Renmark. Not to say that all C441's are tracked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Turbo, are you sure with your information, as to the aircraft being a C441? Surely a C441 down, would be starting to appear everywhere in the news, by now? You're not getting mixed up with the Rossair crash? The SAPOL have not modified their information, they are stating an RA-Aus investigation. They're the people on the ground. I can find no C441 flights on any flight tracking history that have ended suddenly around Renmark. Not to say that all C441's are tracked. You're correct, I pulled up the Rossair Aircraft; sorry about that, it's definitely not XMJ again, so could well be an RAA aircraft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetrack Posted November 16, 2019 Author Share Posted November 16, 2019 Well, there goes your aviation reporting credibility, right out the window. You'll be posting pics of a Cessna, next. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Well, there goes your aviation reporting credibility, right out the window. You'll be posting pics of a Cessna, next. Yes, just another journalist now 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thruster88 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Well, there goes your aviation reporting credibility, right out the window. You'll be posting pics of a Cessna, next. And yours also Onetrack over at the other place ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetrack Posted November 16, 2019 Author Share Posted November 16, 2019 Thruster, my credibility is suss at the best of times. I thought there was something wrong with Turbo's info, a 9/10 seater twin down, would be international headlines within a couple of hours. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deskpilot Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Come on guys, check out the reg number, 24-4399 is an Evektor Sportstar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgwilson Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 The Rego from the photo on the ABC report shows 24-4399. It is a low wing & the Rotax engine has been torn off & sitting beside whats left of the airframe. The pilot was extremely lucky to have survived & probably only did so because the airframe absorbed most of the impact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetrack Posted November 17, 2019 Author Share Posted November 17, 2019 Deskpilot, no-one produced any photos of the aircraft, or further information on the crash, until this morning. Turbo was right on one aspect, he certainly made a right mess of it, it's only fit for scrap now. I trust the pilot makes a full recovery, he's apparently still in a bad way. This 2004 model Evektor was for sale in 2013, it had done 3300 hours TT, back then. See page 53 in the link below. https://www.raa.asn.au/storage/sport-pilot-23-may-2013.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methusala Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Hit power lines and then careened into a vineyard complete with trellised vines. Hope he makes a full recovery. I think that light aircraft and movie cameras are more dangerous mix than mobile phones and young (female) drivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnewbery Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 If it is a Sportstar, thank goodness it's mostly metal. If if my roofing plumber is anything to go by, people will be finding bits of the frame in the soil for years ... now imagine if that was a pile of carbon fibre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thruster88 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 On this one we won't have to wait for the accident report that never comes. Just dont do it. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-11-17/riverland-light-plan-crash-pilot-identified-as-tim-whitrow/11712100 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgwilson Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Flying around low (very low by the sound of it) is just asking for trouble. Power lines are everywhere and you can not see them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JG3 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Very lucky fella. no fire..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetrack Posted November 17, 2019 Author Share Posted November 17, 2019 Bob Gelston, who lives on a nearby property, said Mr Whitrow was flying quite low earlier in the day, "like he was skimming the trees". And he's supposed to be an "experienced pilot"? Sounds to me, like he needs to go sit his exams again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shafs64 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 I am sure Bob now regrets taking to the posing as a journalist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alf jessup Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Have been waiting for this day to come, I and others chipped him on his flying antics only to be told we don’t know what we are taking about, tried to tell him his continual risk taking will catch up to him and yesterday it did. He was even reported to the RAA a couple of years ago about his flying but I don’t think they did anything about it. All will say is I am glad he is alive and he didn’t have a passenger, and for the life of me don’t ask me how he is after seeing the wreckage. Hate to say it but who was right mr pilot?, tried telling you, maybe if you ever fly again you might just realise you are not a good as you thought you were and it was only a matter of time. Hope you recover fully and give the flying game away or drastically change your behaviour. Harsh some of you may think, but he was warned by many including me which fell on deaf ears. Let us all learn once again from another accident that should not have happened. Alf 8 4 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaz3g Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Hope the Kelpie was at home. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabiru7252 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Oh well, we'll get up in the morning and go about our lives as normal but this dude will probably never fly again, maybe never do anything again without a limp, a bib or a napkin and all because of one dumb mistake. Think hard folks, DON'T decide a low, fast beat-up over the homestead is okay. DON"T think a wing-over is cool to impress your friends. You have already impressed them by having a pilot licence. Bogan attitudes won't do any of us in recreational aviation any good. Stay safe... 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgwilson Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 It sounds like it was not just one mistake. Finally all the holes in the swiss cheese lined up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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