slb Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 This afternoon https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/men-swim-to-shore-after-plane-crashes-into-sea-off-fraser-island/ar-BBZqqn2?ocid=spartandhp Two men have swum to shore after their plane crashed just off the coast of Fraser Island in Queensland's south-east. Paramedics were called about 1.20pm on Thursday to treat patients for minor injuries in the Happy Valley area, on the eastern side of the island. The men were being assessed on the beach. An Australian Transport Safety Bureau spokesman said they had a report that a Cessna 206 light aircraft had crashed. “The ATSB is gathering further information into the circumstances of the occurrence ahead of determining whether to conduct a transport safety investigation," he said. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackcountryAeropup Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 https://yarn.co/yarn-clip/c8fd5aa5-b3d8-4240-9534-f69c0a5b4de1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thruster88 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 One from the Air Fraser fleet, they are having a lot of bad luck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneL Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Interview with the chief pilot and his new pilot employee on 7 news tonight. He says they were doing some training ( beach operations? ) And they lost rudder control. The video of the ditching shows a quick descent to the water. Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperplace Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 lost rudder control? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekliston Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 I could be totally wrong here, but I thought their fleet was all Gippsland Airvans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarf007 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 I could be totally wrong here, but I thought their fleet was all Gippsland Airvans? They have a 206 in the fleet too. 2 planes down in a few weeks. Beach operations are really tough on the aircraft. Glad to hear the pilots are OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneL Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 lost rudder control? Broken/corroded rudder cable maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetrack Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 If it was, it sounds like their maintenance is suss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgwilson Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Why would losing control of the rudder cause the aircraft to suddenly dive? Ailerons and elevator should have been able to counteract that with appropriate use of power. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirdDog Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Why would losing control of the rudder cause the aircraft to suddenly dive? Ailerons and elevator should have been able to counteract that with appropriate use of power. I was asking the same question when the report said loss of rudder. The only thing is maybe it was stuck full right or something. Given my little experience with that machine, I still would have thought it would be cable. So if it was a broken cable, then it should return to neutral. So unless it got stuck, and they could not correct it, it has me scratching my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thruster88 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 It could be very difficult to diagnose a fault in the rudder now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirdDog Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Ouch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekliston Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Ah well, at least the media got it right, it actually was a Cessna this time! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litespeed Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 I can tell you just looking at the plane, exactly what went wrong........................... The engine fell off? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgwilson Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Not only that. The tail fell off as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClintonB Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 How lucky can you be, survive a crash into water with minor injuries and have paramedics right in front of the scene. I would buy some lotto now. suprising the plane didn't nose over hitting the water. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackcountryAeropup Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/fraser-island-plane-crash-pilot-defends-air-fraser-safety-record-after-ditching-plane-in-ocean/ar-BBZsP41?ocid=spartanntp Some good photo's in this article of the plane recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetrack Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 It's interesting that the pilots story has now changed from "loss of rudder control" to "engine failure"? That's a pretty major change in the story - unless the journos who reported it initially, mis-reported the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotSoSuperSonic Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 I can tell you just looking at the plane, exactly what went wrong........................... The engine fell off? The Front Fell Off! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgwilson Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Well if the engine failed why did he not carry out a normal engine failure routine? The aircraft was not climbing and he should have been able to glide and ditch in a flare. Admittedly there was not much altitude but instead there was a left diving turn into the sea. Sounds fishy to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnm Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 let him who is without sin cast the first stone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litespeed Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 I am pretty sure that ..............Casting stones from a aircraft is considered a sin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M61A1 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 I am pretty sure that ..............Casting stones from a aircraft is considered a sin. Doing pretty much anything in an aircraft is considered a sin in this country.......Wait, no, just doing pretty much anything in this country is a sin. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litespeed Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 OK, so throwing rocks at politician s from a plane is a sin. But would throwing a pollie from a plane at rocks also be a sin? Not in a just world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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