VoodooForce Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Not a lot of information yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teckair Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Not good 3 dead according to the ABC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teckair Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Weather looks bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alf jessup Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Tobago TB10 media reports are saying, is a low wing by the photo Condolences to the family's and friends of the lost aviators Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 The location is the intersection in the bottom LH Corner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXTRA 300 Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Very sad day, Low cloud base for VFR. Condolences to the family's and friends of the lost aviators 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moto501 Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Site photo suggests "There was thick fog around the area before the plane crashed north of the Mount Gambier airport." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 "it was scheduled to fly to Adelaide Airport at 9:50 am "..due Adelaide Airport just before 11:30 am "It was then expected to fly from there to Murray Bridge at 12:10" - Adelaide Now No Cookies | The Advertiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmccarthy Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Looks like it came in near vertical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zodiacpilot Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 CASA website appears to have taken it off the aircraft register site already. Although its on 2016 register. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happyflyer Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 TV saying it was an angel flight, if so it may get CASA going again as they tried to curtail Angelflight a few years ago when a fatal angel flight occurred in Victoria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrZoos Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Very sad... This article shows a wierd takeoff, may have been trying to get back to runway. Also shows wreckage soz, the links playing up... Go to google news and the Australian article 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farri Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 No survivors after light plane crash near Mount Gambier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nico13 Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 TV saying it was an angel flight, if so it may get CASA going again as they tried to curtail Angelflight a few years ago when a fatal angel flight occurred in Victoria. I was just reading the ATSB report on FaceBook of the Jan 2016 Piper PA-28 VH-PXD where four were unfortunately lost in a poor visibility crash of the south coast Vic just west of Port Phillip Heads and it went on to mention a couple of others including the one I think you're talking about. I was out with CFI just recently in some poor conditions and I can see how things can go pear shaped very quickly. He made comment that he was pleased with the way I handled things and the choices I made in those conditions. I hope I never stop making good decisions. A sad day, condolences to family and friends. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernie Knight Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Very sad to hear. A pilot volunteering to help a family - doing something for another Thoughts are with all there. Having owned a restaurant in Mt Gambier for nearly 20 years I have seen some unusual weather there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Yes. Looks like a high speed impact near vertical. Not survivable. Angel flight. Yes. Who knows what CASA will do about that. Very sad. It would be over quickly. Nev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetrack Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 I'm very saddened to hear of, and see the results of this crash. I'm also amazed at the massive destruction of the aircraft as a result of what appears to be an almost vertical dive into the ground. One has to wonder if the weather really did have a major bearing on this crash - although the last minute or two of the indicated flight path certainly doesn't look like someone who knew exactly where they were, and where they were going. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alf jessup Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Only guessing but may have had a carb icing issue/engine problem due to the moisture around the airport at the time trying to get back to airport going by the flight track ATSB with cover all avenues 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopdangler Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Spatial disorientation kills!! How many times do we have to see aircraft wreckage like this to learn that those that don't have the correct ratings or aircraft stay out of fog and low cloud regardless of circumstances... my thoughts are with those that have to live with the consequences of these loved souls lost. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 IF the engine's running and the nose is pointing straight down you go fast, fast. We don't know the cause but the result is there to see.. When rated pilots give warning of dire consequences if you get disorientated, we get accused of embellishing the skill (making it up) and that Instrument flying must be easy as EVERYONE knows which way is DOWN.. I stress again I'm not wanting to make assumptions as to the cause here. But there's a regular loss of planes in the "No visibility" GA environment. Nev 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 The news media have reported delays to commercial traffic at the time, and on another forum someone reported a Rex doing a missed approach. Someone claimed that the Met report at the time was visibility 3400 metres and overcast at 200 feet. If correct, that would make it an IFR flight requirement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man emu Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 A Tobago is the type of plane that would be IFR equipped, and You don't buy one of those as a first plane. I'm guessing that the pilot was IFR rated. Isn't that a requirement for pilots who volunteer to carry out this sort of flight for the charity involved? OME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 A Tobago is the type of plane that would be IFR equipped, and You don't buy one of those as a first plane. I'm guessing that the pilot was IFR rated. Isn't that a requirement for pilots who volunteer to carry out this sort of flight for the charity involved?OME He and the aircraft could be IFR rated. Not sure about the requirement, the one which went down at Horsham was flying VFR from memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben87r Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 There's no requirement to be IFR for an angel flight but they do prefer it and do allow it to be in a single. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXTRA 300 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 From my research I believe that the cause of the collision was medical related, Pilot was 78yr, yes conditions were foggy, Even delaying RPT traffic. Im sure the TB-10 is IFR rated, Pressure of situation and conditions may have led to a medical episode . Hope to hear answers on this investigation. Please note that this is my opinion only as I am not a licensed air crash investigator. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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