Birdseye Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Search for survivors after seaplane crashes into Hawkesbury River Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 You would think that was a pretty safe operation. Doesn't look good. Nev 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdseye Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 Looking more like recovery than rescue now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Brady Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Beaver or Caravan? Weather seemed OK. So sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butch Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Eye witness claims the aircraft did a tight turn , dropped a wing and hit the water. Maybe a stall ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Isaac Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 It appears 6 souls lost. Tragic. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 VH-NOO is a 1963 de Havilland Canada Beaver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacesailor Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 My favorite aircraft. Love seeing it & hearing that deep engine sound. Gets maintenance " Old Halvesons,Kissing-point" . Condolences to all involved. spacesailor 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alf jessup Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 That is so sad to see, people like you and me on a day out ready to celebrate the NY tonight and in a blink of an eye it’s all over in this life. Condolences to all the family and friends of the lost souls 9 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scre80 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 RIP all, very sad news 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyG Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Tragic news indeed, Condolences to their families & friends. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacesailor Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Maintenance for Sydney Seaplanes. : :Hope you enjoy. spacesailor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methusala Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Beavers have a reasonably high aspect ratio wing which makes a sudden wing drop in a stall common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClintonB Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 RIP all, I was only admiring that very aircraft circling as we left on a Cruise boat a fortnight ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Beavers have extensive use in air AG work over many years.They are pretty viceless compared to most planes . Nev 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head in the clouds Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Beavers have a reasonably high aspect ratio wing which makes a sudden wing drop in a stall common. That's an odd comment. A sudden wing drop in a turning and/or skidding stall would have nothing to do with aspect ratio. As fh said, Beavers are generally considered to be a very kindly flyer. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdseye Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 I see little point in pontificating or speculating as to what or what may not have happened, at least until there is something of substance reported on the occurrence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernie Knight Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Birdseye I wondering why you started the Thread then make the comment in your last Post. In every accident ever listed on this Forum aviation enthusiasts offer thoughts, their perspective on accidents and incidents adding either their own experiences or antidotes. Unfortunately it's all speculation until the investigation is complete. You have started the Thread and opened as they say the 'can or worms' Mmmmm 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 They are calling for witness's and any videos/camera info. I'd be surprised if there wasn't any. It may well be very important in finding out why. We tend to think all planes have "black" box. recorder(s). "WE" being the general public.. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 They are calling for witness's and any videos/camera info. I'd be surprised if there wasn't any. It may well be very important in finding out why. We tend to think all planes have "black" box. recorder(s). "WE" being the general public.. Nev They have the witness who described the turn, in reasonable detail, and there were quite a few boats around, and the departure point and final resting places are known, and the aircraft wreckage would appear to be recoverable, and the pilot's history will be available, so hopefully some pieces will come together. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 As you know much witness information can be suspect. Unless they have some flying connection/knowledge they frequently get some very off estimates of height engine noises etc example..." the engines were straining against the strong headwind". and so forth. The more you get the better the general outcome. Perhaps mobile phones can be helpful. There would likely be a GPS on board. If some witness noted the position of the control surfaces, (or photos being better) that is very helpful. . Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Isaac Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Either way, pilot error or not, mechanical or not, a bloody terrible accident for all parties and the future of Sydney Harbour Seaplanes. To my knowledge this is their first fatality. There have been other seaplane tragedies in Sydney, e.g the C185 at Berowra with all souls lost but that was NOT Sydney Harbour seaplanes. My heart weeps for the families of all concerned. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSCBD Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Myles Baptiste told Nine News he watched in horror as the plane hit the water and quickly sank on Sunday. "We saw a seaplane coming towards us," he said. "It made a tight right-hand turn and as it actually turned around, the wings dipped and it nosedived straight into the water." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Isaac Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Myles Baptiste told Nine News he watched in horror as the plane hit the water and quickly sank on Sunday."We saw a seaplane coming towards us," he said. "It made a tight right-hand turn and as it actually turned around, the wings dipped and it nosedived straight into the water." That was the eye witness account I heard on TV last night also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 I've heard that comment. We have to find out why. The purpose of good investigation should be primarily the prevention of a similar thing happening in the future.. Nev 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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