Geoff_H Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 Anybody know anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 Just a lot of smoke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red750 Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 Channel 9 report here. Smoke and fire have been seen in thick bushland near Appin Road at Appin in Macarthur. Geoff mate. You forgot the date again. I've fixed it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetrack Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 A double fatal again. This is not a good month for aviation. https://www.miragenews.com/two-dead-after-plane-crashes-at-appin-922530/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff_H Posted December 26, 2022 Author Share Posted December 26, 2022 2 hours ago, red750 said: Channel 9 report here. Smoke and fire have been seen in thick bushland near Appin Road at Appin in Macarthur. Geoff mate. You forgot the date again. I've fixed it. Thanks Red. I getting too old. 😒 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 Better than the alternative, Geoff. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff_H Posted December 26, 2022 Author Share Posted December 26, 2022 Yes Nev, getting old is a privilege denied many. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yampy Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 Being reported on local Sydney news as a Glasair 11 .. Dave C 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slb Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 Released: 26 December 2022 The following statement can be attributed to ATSB Chief Commissioner Angus Mitchell: “The Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) has commenced an investigation into a collision with terrain involving a foreign registered Glasair Super II aircraft near Appin, NSW which occurred shortly before 3.00pm on Monday. “The aircraft came down in bushland in the vicinity of Appin Road, where on-site emergency services confirmed the two occupants on board were deceased. "A team of transport safety investigators from the ATSB's Canberra and Brisbane offices are deploying to the accident site to commence the on-site phase of the investigation. "The initial ATSB safety investigation will include an examination of the wreckage, assessment of aircraft and pilot records, weather information and any available recorded data. "The ATSB’s evidence collection will define the size and scope of the investigation and determine the expected timeframe for the completion of a final report. “The ATSB asks anyone who may have seen the aircraft in any phase of its flight, or who may have footage of any kind, to please make contact via our website - www.atsb.gov.au/witness "A report will be published at the completion of the investigation. However, should a critical safety issue be identified during the course of the investigation, the ATSB will immediately notify relevant parties." // Ends NOTE: The ATSB will not be providing any further statements in relation to this accident until the release of the preliminary report in about 6 - 8 weeks time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFguy Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 not many options for EFATO at Wedderburn.... (not saying this was any cause) . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyBoy1960 Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 They investigate every foreign rego because they charge the costs to the other country and make big $$ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippydiesel Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 47 minutes ago, RFguy said: not many options for EFATO at Wedderburn.... (not saying this was any cause) . I would say almost nil - about 1.5 km of bush to the nearest open country. Loss of power on TO would have left the pilot with few options. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, skippydiesel said: I would say almost nil - about 1.5 km of bush to the nearest open country. Loss of power on TO would have left the pilot with few options. It's not as if this factor hadn't been driven home. In July 2015 a Glasair VH Experimental according to witnesses was "flying due north , downwind leg. The engine surged twice and was then silent." They heard the aircraft collide with wooded terrain. The passenger died, the pilot was seriously injured. ATSB found the engine issue was possibly carb ice. From google earth this airfield and surrounds looks very much like Katoomba, the circuit completely covered in trees where Rod Hay had an engine failure and was killed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinsm Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 I read that the aircraft was travelling from the goulburn area to wedderburn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetrack Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 As always, the media are making a thing about the Glasair being an "experimental, kit aircraft", with all the attendant, "inferior construction, home-built" insinuations. https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/aviation/sydney-plane-crash-under-investigation-c-9281727 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yampy Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 I’ve flown from Wedderburn a few times , there are very few options when you experience a EFATO . I also know it was a 34deg day and it was a tailwind departure , not a good set of circumstances . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 Do we know what engine it had? Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgmwa Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 Media reported the engine was a Subaru. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 Yes I've been in one such as that. They are NOT the EA 81 either. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Country Flyer Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 From NTSB - Not a lot know at this stage https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/appin-plane-crash-press-conference-december-17-2022-illawarra-mercury/vi-AA15Ha53?ocid=winp1taskbar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrendAn Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 40 minutes ago, Country Flyer said: From NTSB - Not a lot know at this stage https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/appin-plane-crash-press-conference-december-17-2022-illawarra-mercury/vi-AA15Ha53?ocid=winp1taskbar These numnuts can't even get the date correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
440032 Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 Had to give his press conference 10 days in advance, before closing for the holidays. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, 440032 said: Had to give his press conference 10 days in advance, before closing for the holidays. Well if we are nit picking the gentleman was from the ATSB. Interesting he said 2022 was one of the worst years for fatals with 23 to date. He may have included RA, but even if he did, and even considering people have been non-current and the aircraft coming from a couple of years of storage, RA fatals are still down on previous years before Covid. Edited December 27, 2022 by turboplanner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrendAn Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 3 hours ago, 440032 said: Had to give his press conference 10 days in advance, before closing for the holidays. Wtf. He is giving a press conference on Mondays crash. The date underneath is December 17. How is that nitpicking turbo . I must be reading it wrong but it looks like a 17 to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 minute ago, BrendAn said: Wtf. He is giving a press conference on Mondays crash. The date underneath is December 17. How is that nitpicking turbo . I must be reading it wrong but it looks like a 17 to me. Well equally how could anyone think the US authorities would be investigating the accident. Some people make unintentional mistakes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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