bull Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Another jab has gone down in Tassie, pilot is ok no word on why engine failed yet,, https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-30/tasmania-police-responds-to-light-aircraft-crash-in-stanley/12933892?fbclid=IwAR1B54fSkh4a01pt8rvttYboQ8TjPoxhFxgp-ChT7vGYtJXEMflQm9AFpJ0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetrack Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 At least he selected a relatively clear outlanding spot! Could've been much worse, there's a lot of tiger country in Tassie, isn't there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bull Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 Sure is , and notice the weak nosewheel failed as it does in nearly all outlandings in a jab? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rankamateur Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 20 minutes ago, onetrack said: At least he selected a relatively clear outlanding spot! Could've been much worse, there's a lot of tiger country in Tassie, isn't there! Tassy tiger's gotta live! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenlsa Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 The nose leg is designed to collapse as it is the built in safety feature to minimise a tip over. All correct! Ken 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, Kenlsa said: The nose leg is designed to collapse as it is the built in safety feature to minimise a tip over. All correct! Ken I don't think so; the tip over is usually the result of the nose hitting the direct when there is forward energy. However, I wouldn't say Jab nose wheels are weak. We don't have enough information yet on the landing paddock or what was in it. Personally in a forced landing I'm more than happy to snap of the whole undercarriage because it's lowing me down. A small ditch, rebbit burrow or stump will do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bull Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 12 minutes ago, Kenlsa said: The nose leg is designed to collapse as it is the built in safety feature to minimise a tip over. All correct! Ken Have a good look at that paddock Ken ,no rocks no gulles just tufts of grass hmmm......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downunder Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 18 minutes ago, Kenlsa said: The nose leg is designed to collapse as it is the built in safety feature to minimise a tip over. All correct! Ken Comedy gold right there..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bull Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 Just now, Downunder said: Comedy gold right there..... He does have a jab on his avatar so just trying to defend the undefendable i suppose,,lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetrack Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 I wouldn't like to guess on that paddock being nice and smooth. To me, it looks like cattle have been pawing the ground and digging small depressions, as they do, looking for grass in bare pastures. Also, bulls paw the ground and dig holes, too. Look into a paddock where cattle have been located for a period of time, and you'll soon see the ground is not at all conducive for smooth outlandings. Give me a plowed or scarified wheatbelt cropping paddock any time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgwilson Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Commentary stated he hit a rock. If it was big and immovable the nosewheel is going to collapse no matter what aircraft it is. 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ando Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 You can clearly see the rock when enlarge the image from the link. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFguy Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) rocks are visible lurking in the grass on the bottom left hand side of the photo. looks like a reasonably fair outcome, really, considering less favourable options. Edited November 30, 2020 by RFguy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Looks like a pretty big rock to me. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, kgwilson said: Commentary stated he hit a rock. If it was big and immovable the nosewheel is going to collapse no matter what aircraft it is. Ahem... not a tail dragger 😉 Edited November 30, 2020 by Tex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSCBD Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Just plain bad luck - the only rock in the paddock. He got it down without stalling in so well done. Or If any one cast another stone here - let him be the next engine failure and we will score your landing from the safety on the couch too! 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFguy Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) once on the ground, should have re-flared it right ???, lift the nose wheel back up at just the right time to dodge the rock ? :-) ....deadpan.... This is why, the "clean up Australia day" litter cleanup needs to have scope extended to cleaning up all rocks in all fields, and putting white red cones on those that cannot be moved, wherever they are. :-) Edited November 30, 2020 by RFguy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_d Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 I think he did a great job. Even had the prop stopped horizontally so it didn't hit anything. At least he didn't hit the other big rock in Stanley... 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Personally I would feel much safer coming down in a jab than many of the other aircraft around. Glad to hear the pilot is relatively ok and I wish him well like I am sure most of you do as well 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bull Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, kgwilson said: Commentary stated he hit a rock. If it was big and immovable the nosewheel is going to collapse no matter what aircraft it is. Taildragger would have gone over it, but i digress , my apologies for not seeing those rocks and ,yes he has done a fine job and taildraggers are not immune either,i personally had my 503 fail [fuel pump] and landed in a paddock and hit the only little ditch [not seen from the air ] and destroyed my undercarriage on my loehle a while ago [ if you look along the wing line just above it you can see the little ditch] Edited November 30, 2020 by bull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgwilson Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 A few feet left or right in a TD & the main gear would have hit it, then a skew one way and the momentum ends up with the wing in the ground possibly hitting another rock & etc etc. No it was bad luck but a good end result. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bull Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, kgwilson said: A few feet left or right in a TD & the main gear would have hit it, then a skew one way and the momentum ends up with the wing in the ground possibly hitting another rock & etc etc. No it was bad luck but a good end result. Yes you are right there,he was lucky that paddock was there as there is LOTS of tassie tiger country around here that does not leave you much chance . And he has done a very good job ,he is in one piece and so is the jab more or less. Edited November 30, 2020 by bull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Student Pilot Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 17 hours ago, onetrack said: and you'll soon see the ground is not at all conducive for smooth outlandings. Give me a plowed or scarified wheatbelt cropping paddock any time. Be interesting with an uninsured aircraft what the compensation would be for crop damage removing the wreck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_d Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Not sure what crop is in that paddock, looks like grass to me. But then I'm not a farmer! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bull Posted December 1, 2020 Author Share Posted December 1, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Student Pilot said: Be interesting with an uninsured aircraft what the compensation would be for crop damage removing the wreck. Most cow farmers i,ve met would go out of their way to help you in this situation ,,when i landed in a "cow farm PADDOCK' the farmer offerred everything from the use of his sheds to store my aircraft and the use of his tractors and trucks etc and even made me some sandwiches and a nice cup of tea. Not one mention of damage to the "grass" or frightened cattle ,[the bloody things where more curious then frightened] might be a different matter if you landed in barley or wheat and started a fire ?, Edited December 1, 2020 by bull 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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